From: Geno Rodriguez
Subject: Short videos/films
May I suggest a selection of short films/video like this one would communicate the plight of the poor very clearly to others in the same situation up here. We should also find some films with struggling nurses, pilots, teachers etc to connect to the unemployed middle class.
Subject: Short videos/films
May I suggest a selection of short films/video like this one would communicate the plight of the poor very clearly to others in the same situation up here. We should also find some films with struggling nurses, pilots, teachers etc to connect to the unemployed middle class.
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From: Christopher Moylan
Here are my reactions--just as someone who will be in the audience watching and who knows little about film.
It looks like three genres or styles are emerging: three minute or so clips of street protest montage interspersed with remarks from individual protesters; more experimental or whimsical pieces like the Pavlova piece and the AR (altered reality?) bits; and what promises to be, I think, a more documentary style film from those people who are appealing for funding help.
I assume that one evening or event could mix street protest bits with the experimental ones but stringing them together to make an hour or hour and half presentation would require running commentary either live or within the film, preferably within the film followed by someone taking questions later...I'd get pretty antsy watching twenty three minute videos without a lot of help understanding what it all amounted to... And I would, as an audience member, want to learn something fairly substantial, perhaps useful in a practical sense--or get a zen slap of having the films demonstrate a very different way of looking at reality...
Maybe the whole fest would take the form of a groundbreaking experimental occu-zen-slap-a-thon. That would be cool.
It looks like three genres or styles are emerging: three minute or so clips of street protest montage interspersed with remarks from individual protesters; more experimental or whimsical pieces like the Pavlova piece and the AR (altered reality?) bits; and what promises to be, I think, a more documentary style film from those people who are appealing for funding help.
I assume that one evening or event could mix street protest bits with the experimental ones but stringing them together to make an hour or hour and half presentation would require running commentary either live or within the film, preferably within the film followed by someone taking questions later...I'd get pretty antsy watching twenty three minute videos without a lot of help understanding what it all amounted to... And I would, as an audience member, want to learn something fairly substantial, perhaps useful in a practical sense--or get a zen slap of having the films demonstrate a very different way of looking at reality...
Maybe the whole fest would take the form of a groundbreaking experimental occu-zen-slap-a-thon. That would be cool.
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From Paul Smart:
A collection of protest films from the Mid Hudson Library System housed for the duration of the project at the Catskill Library (just of Main Street) relating to OWS to the 60's protest movement. Withtake-away Netficks list and possible film screenings at the library.
From: "Paul McLean"
<artforhumans@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: occupy film/moving image links...
A sampler
- http://www.whilewewatch.com/
- http://www.occupywithart.com/video-art-of-ows/2011/11/20/a-new-day-begins-at-occupy-wall-street.html
- http://www.99percentfilm.com/ http://kck.st/u5KTt4
- http://youtu.be/IgEdrh617qs
- http://www.occupywithart.com/video-art-of-ows/2011/10/26/the-99.html
- http://youtu.be/t89SoPB1sZ0
- http://www.youtube.com/user/nothingofficial
- http://www.youtube.com/user/OccupyTVNY
- http://www.occupystreams.org/
- http://occupycinema.org/
- http://www.occupyfilmmakers.com/
- livestream
channels that document/promote the movement, offering some amazing moments
as alt.news (such as the BBridge crossing N17/Bat signal scenes, or
- short/long
treatments self-released by pro videographers and filmmakers in support of
the movement
- art
films and videos (music and visual/tech driven) inspired by the movement
and its memes/people
- interviews
of the 99%
- feature-length
films assembled for wide distribution
Then there are more new
media-oriented works that blur lines of art and information or expression (like
animated gif/AR/music videos, etc) that really exist almost independent of the
streaming media, but which in some way exist as a satellite to it.
I think the formats for presentation are dimensional. Whether one chooses to present any of these or all of these divergent-formats in the combinative montage (say, reeling them into a format for big screen, or reducing/compressing them for projection/monitor-based presentation in a white environment, or offering them online as a mobile download) is certainly the New Media orientation. Selecting for traditional "filmic" or cinematic presentation doesn't afford a curator with a variety of choices at this point. In fact it wrongly indicates a lack of "finished" work. I think the best solution requires a re-tooling and re-imagining of usage of all available presentation formats. Good precursors for this are - stay with me here - indicated by models for planes (especially long-flight transports), minivans or limos, and home entertainment systems. Some museums have adopted this presentation approach which is modular and allows the "viewer" to toggle among several media choices. This is a 3D or environmental approach, and with audio added (either as an encompassed sound-field, or particularized - through the use of headphones or other isolation- or dictional- sound solutions), produces an immersive scenario in the presentation, which is actually closer to real life experience than the phalanx-based "theater" architecture. It's what I would recommend, but involves a fairly involved educational curve - i.e., is it cool to leave your smart phone on during a show? In the 4D presentation method I'm describing, live performance is the final additive element that can be introduced to activate the environment. Now you have a party! I've produced numerous variations on these arrangements over the years. At this point I would think we can all think of plenty of successful examples of the 4D presentation practicums, although they're not called that (even though that's what they are). Some of these approaches are ancient, pre-electronic. Some have evolved over centuries in theater and elsewhere. Others are really new, based on emerging AC technologies.
From Boo Lynn Walsh:
I think the formats for presentation are dimensional. Whether one chooses to present any of these or all of these divergent-formats in the combinative montage (say, reeling them into a format for big screen, or reducing/compressing them for projection/monitor-based presentation in a white environment, or offering them online as a mobile download) is certainly the New Media orientation. Selecting for traditional "filmic" or cinematic presentation doesn't afford a curator with a variety of choices at this point. In fact it wrongly indicates a lack of "finished" work. I think the best solution requires a re-tooling and re-imagining of usage of all available presentation formats. Good precursors for this are - stay with me here - indicated by models for planes (especially long-flight transports), minivans or limos, and home entertainment systems. Some museums have adopted this presentation approach which is modular and allows the "viewer" to toggle among several media choices. This is a 3D or environmental approach, and with audio added (either as an encompassed sound-field, or particularized - through the use of headphones or other isolation- or dictional- sound solutions), produces an immersive scenario in the presentation, which is actually closer to real life experience than the phalanx-based "theater" architecture. It's what I would recommend, but involves a fairly involved educational curve - i.e., is it cool to leave your smart phone on during a show? In the 4D presentation method I'm describing, live performance is the final additive element that can be introduced to activate the environment. Now you have a party! I've produced numerous variations on these arrangements over the years. At this point I would think we can all think of plenty of successful examples of the 4D presentation practicums, although they're not called that (even though that's what they are). Some of these approaches are ancient, pre-electronic. Some have evolved over centuries in theater and elsewhere. Others are really new, based on emerging AC technologies.
From Boo Lynn Walsh:
I am casting the net a little further out, looking for some diversity in medium and also my friends around the world who are experiencing the peoples' movement firsthand.
Since we are thinking of some additional film and image short reels...
I am offering this endearing short of Emily a long-term OWS artist for group consensus below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
(I remember seeing this woman's work many times during my visits to ZPark. Also Ms. Minsky who filmed this is a not a videographer but a very well known photographer and journalist who has offered to look through of a few of her images of Occupy for submission to the rotating photo viewing project.)
here's another related to arts and kids at Zpark. Again, very raw, but I love the connection and how Zpark was really a community and one parents brought children to!
Park Slope kids come to Occupy Wall Street- Zuccotti Pk (OWS- Tequila Minsky) "mic check"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
another student talking about budget cuts been in Zpark since Sept. 17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
I'm sure there are other priceless treasures on youtube if mined correctly and the videographers and hopefully the subjects were contacted.
Since we are thinking of some additional film and image short reels...
I am offering this endearing short of Emily a long-term OWS artist for group consensus below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
(I remember seeing this woman's work many times during my visits to ZPark. Also Ms. Minsky who filmed this is a not a videographer but a very well known photographer and journalist who has offered to look through of a few of her images of Occupy for submission to the rotating photo viewing project.)
here's another related to arts and kids at Zpark. Again, very raw, but I love the connection and how Zpark was really a community and one parents brought children to!
Park Slope kids come to Occupy Wall Street- Zuccotti Pk (OWS- Tequila Minsky) "mic check"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
another student talking about budget cuts been in Zpark since Sept. 17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
I'm sure there are other priceless treasures on youtube if mined correctly and the videographers and hopefully the subjects were contacted.
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ReplyDeleteYes. Who could curate? Maybe Dee Dee Myers, mother of documentary activist films in the Hudson Valley? Along with a younger artist or two? Any other names to throw out there? Paul Smart is WAY too busy.
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ReplyDeleteYes, but what are the specific films? Will all equipment will be provided by the filmakers? Are they requesting funding?
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ReplyDeletewhat about someone at Bard? or tsl
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